Is software application Design and Architecture a secret ? Then why people hide it from you

vbzaidan z

15y3.1kSoftware Architecture/Engineering

Hi all ...

My name : zidan

(( My skill ))
(flash actionscript = intermediate , c# = intermediate , php = beginner level , mysql = intermediate ,sqlserver = intermediate , ado.net = intermediate ,sqllite = intermediate ) developer .

My Weak area ( converting my idea into oops means creating classes and object even though i know the concept but sitll not able to implement this concept into my project

(( My problem ))
i don't have real team work experience and i dont have time all project i did so far all are normal once means i used function procedure ,, i know the concept of oops But how to implement the concept in my real life project i tried from 2 years to develop even small project but no one help me .. i read and download many books on design pattern and MVC and UML but still i didnt get it
i need a proper guidance since you people have lots of experience developing application i want to start building application based on oops concept please if you kindly can help me ... in short i want to learn how to convert my project idea and wireframing to Classes and how to Relate those classes with each other .
i even gone through forums but they didn't acutely teach you how to implement oops from the start ( only partial help ) sometime i think it is a secret people keep hiding even from other you wont find oops implementation even for small size project in books , video training .. i tried a lot .. they only show theory with very simple example and then jump to the next point ..

(( My Request))

--> guide me how to architect any project in oops ...
i am doing Currently medium size project i am working on it using ( C# 2005 , 2008 , Ado.net 3.5 or 2.0 , sqlserver 2005 , or 2008 ) i have knowledge in all these 3 areas .

- plus i did full study on this project since it is also for personal and public needs ( later when i publish it ) .

- the database design somewhat easy with little modification needed ..

- 80 % of this project is already done but i just used function procedure style not opps that means i am reusing only the functions but i want it to make it in oops using MVC OOPs style . moreover i lost all data of this project because of my brother accidentally format the hard drive .
But later i spent 3 month working on the wire-framing work flow i even made it better the previous one with more options and features

** please **
i m ready to pay for the honest expert who is going to help on through out the project .. if any one would like to join my ( one person team )
he/she most welcome ... at the end all of us will gain experiences and name .. i m sure there many people have the same problem tht i had ... no loss ...

(( about this little project ))

it is Expenses Budget controller My father actually requested me if i can do this since he is writing his daily expenses in a notebook i have seen many software that does the job but i didn't like their user interface and usability concept they make entering data long task complicated process .. so i decide to make a better one considering ease of use , automation entry options , better UI Finally,,,,, of course i could go further explaining the project in details i have all UI and database and how it is going to work documents but i want to see if you can take my hand and guide me .

Thanks for c-sharpcorner.com forum owner for opening their door and offering hands to guide us help us ...

I would appreciate your immediate attention to this ... please let me know what action you propose for me to take according to my above situation ..

Best Regard
Zaidan

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Sam Hobbs15y ago
I asked about oops because I did not know what it is.
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vbzaidan z15y ago
i have wireframe of the expenses control application tht i want to develop is well sketch n well designed i spent almost 6 months for designing and sketching for both ( database tables and interface and control flow of the program ) since non one is helping me ..and working alone and learning can sometime be benefaction more than working with group especially if it is personal application .. but this software will help everyone ..once it is developed completed i will published it for public use ... Frankly i almost give up on working further on this application but on the other hand i m very excited about it and i really wants to make it .. but no one out there to help .. i m not asking C# or sql or ado.net training from any one because all i need is this : will you help me to make to use OOP concept if i show my design for both database and application interface ? i m ready to pay for your time u spent with me working on this project because i really wants to learn this .. as fast as possible .. Thanks for all ..and many thanks for sam hobbs who is making fun of my poor English hahahaha :)
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Sam Hobbs15y ago
The problem is that you have not asked anything specific. Is there something specific you want help with?

Note that in C# there is no real difference between functions and methods. I probably understand what you are trying to say but saying you "used function procedure" is not real clear.

I see people of India saying "oops" with a "s" so you are not the first and you are probably doing that because everyone else does. So I understand.
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vbzaidan z15y ago
thanks for the reply :- it seems to me tht no one here is understanding exactly what i meant when i said i need guidance to help me implement what i already designed into classes and objects ...may i think my English is not good enough .... it is OOP :) object oriented programming ... my dear sam Hobbs not OOPS ..
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Sam Hobbs15y ago
I know that OOP is the acronym for Object Oriented Programming but what does the "s" in oopS mean? Because the only meaning I know of "oops" is that it is what people say when they make a mistake, like oops I dropped something.

As Mahesh says, good designing is difficult to understand. Either you get it or you don't.

Two ways to get started designing your application is to either design the forms or design the database. Ideally you should know how to design the tables for the database. Alternatively you can design the forms; just design what the user (your father) will see and what he expects to happen. A good designer will do that first without deciding how to write the program.

So start by designing the forms. Then using that you can design the tables. Then you can figure out and learn how to put it all together. Hopefully someone can help you design the tables if you first have the forms designed.
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Jonathas Sucupira15y ago
Have you looked at this? http://microsoftnlayerapp.codeplex.com/
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Mahesh Chand15y ago
I am not sure people try to hide the architecture. It's just not easy to explain and people just don't have time.
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