<P>asked my dad how do I program and he gave me a Collage "C" Book at 9 years old stupid circle wouldn't draw. and well my first line was at 9 but I gave up after 3 or for days of begging my father to help and tryed again later at 14 years old with Q basic then ran with what ever my lawn mony could aford and did the monk thing in the army. Didn't own a computer for 3 years wial I worked on Missile systems. lots of MMO's and Beer then got mad and picked it up again with C#. I then found my way back to C++ and SDK. to marro the world =)</P>