Company is not issuing Experience Certificate

Question

Hi all..

I have 15Months (i.e. 1year 3months) experience on .NET Platform.

Recently, the HR of the company called me and said - "The Management have decided to close the entire division of Software Developer of the company. Hence, we are giving you 1Month notice period. Start finding a new job for yourself now."

I was shocked, and could not do anything to save my job.

I then requested the HR Person to kindly give the experience certificate and also mention the correct reasons for me leaving the job.

The HR Person is now refusing me to give me my experience certificate also.

Please guide me. What should I do now.

Also, I pray that no good persons should face this problem in their lives.

Thanks a lot in advance....

Jean Paul · Answer

Hello Riddhi, I am interrupting again to give you some INSIGHTS of what is happening. I think you are missing to interpret some points: 1) Your old company hates you & the 15 employees, they are taking a Revenge upon you people through blocking salary, experience certificate, They are unprofessional, but due to the hatred in heart they are doing so. 2) Your new company perceive You as a new person. Believe me, most people won't believe us, if we do not have a Trust history. In your case, you are straight forward in telling the truth about problems, but new-company cannot see Trustable sources in you / your-old-company, so they won't just-believe you. 3) Neither you or your-old-company Have a Trustable Published image, either good or bad. For example, if you were from Satyam in 2009, then any HR will take you because they know Satyam is bad! In your case, your old-company do not have a Bad Published Image.. So the new-company cannot just believe you & close the matter. They will continue pondering with reference calls, because they are DOUBTING YOU! Please try to understand this >> In the world of reference, they are more interested in analyzing the past with a less-trustable source >> so they continue calling your previous company as you have mentioned about the issue. PEOPLE TRUST ONLY TRUSTABLE SOURCE! I thought about your idea in filing a suit in labour court or so, but in my personal experience, i am not confident. Might be i am from kerala where the govt. officer will come late, take bribe, i lost confidence in Indian Government. If the labour officer is also another culprit guy, then you have to take them to the Prime Minister.. :) Additionally, if the labour court move create much more negativity & challenge your old-company, they may create more troubles.. The character of the company says so! Anyways, i am not demotivating you.. You can try labour option.. As a solution, i prefer you try getting new job in a company where you have friends/colleagues, so the back-reference problem is smoothened. I am not asking you in the creation of new company fake experience certificate, or false reference calls. Another solution, is to wait till the old-company collapses, so no way of reference calls. If you wanted, we can call your old-company and try to see the ROOT CAUSE of the problems, whether whole company have grudge, only one person etc.

Riddhi Valecha · Answer

Hi... What so ever you said was absolutely true... The end result of the story is - We got the exp certificate and now left the job. Now, I am in a better position.... at Hydrabad.... Thanks a lot for all your advises n help... It really helped me out..

Chandradev Prasad · Answer

Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 Hi If you are in private job then you don't scare from it. It is general things. You talk politely with HR people to just give the exp letter. You don't ask to write the reason for termination of my job. They will never give in written statement. You don't try to leave your previous salary for this exp document. Now they will try to do blackmail to you. They will tell you leave your previous month salary then I will give exp document. But don't trust on them, anyhow you try to take all your pending salary. If you have money and knowledge you can do anything's. In market so many branded s/w companies are there who used to sell this exp document within very less amount. If you are thinking they will give wrong feedback in bg verification then don't keep that company name in your resume. Now you concentrate on all basic fundament of C#, Asp.net, Sqlserver, Javascript. You will get the new job quickly. Try to forget about your past company. /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;mso-style-noshow:yes;mso-style-priority:99;mso-style-qformat:yes;mso-style-parent:"";mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;mso-para-margin-top:0in;mso-para-margin-right:0in;mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:0in;line-height:115%;mso-pagination:widow-orphan;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}

Anil Kumar · Answer

This is the first time, I am not agree with my dear friend Jean advice. If you have knowledge and really have worked with a company that is closing its business then why are you worry about your 2 months experience from such company. It is not only, but there are 15 colleague also. In less than your DTP cost(in hundreds rupee), from labor court, you will get all. Last year a Gurgaon based company did the same thing. 2-3 persons courage and went labor court. In a week time, owner come down to settle with all the things salary, certificates, bonus etc. I highly advice to not stand with forge or fake documents. It is your beginning yaar. Come on and show your talent. Honestly speak to HR about this company and reason. You have enough experience and not a fresher. Boost yourself with knowledge and grab opportunity...

Chandradev Prasad · Answer

Hi In Private job you canot fight for job. You can fight for your salary. They have done business, if they are not getting profit then any time they will close it. Did you get all your previous months salary ? After getting salary only take exp letter. Are you getting the salary slip ? If it is owner base company then surely they will create problem. If good HR will be there he will not ask more question regarding this. You can tell Company was not getting any project so they closed the "Software development Team ". But in MNC company, they will expect all documents if will not give then they will reject your profile. If you will tell like this they will think like fake condidate. In small and medium company they will not create that much problem regarding this. You keep 3 months latest salaryslip and email proof regarding closing of "Development Team".

Giriraj Vyas · Answer

hi can u pls tell me how u got ur experience certificate at last?

Riddhi Valecha · Answer

Hi all.... I am still facing issues with the HR Interview of the new companies. I was not able to explain the reasons for 2Months gap in the CV. I told clearly what exactly happened. But, the current company is not issuing the experience certificate and I do not know what to do further. Everything is based on telephonic talks between the new companies and the feedback of the previous company. Please help me out. If I do not mention this in the CV, the 2Months gap is making a problem. Thanks a lot for your advices.

Jean Paul · Answer

Thank You Anil for the honest reply :) I missed the point of 2 months, i thought entire 15 months is trouble for Riddhi. Your idea is the best one.. Thank you for the suggestion Dear Anil

Giriraj Vyas · Answer

hi can u pls tell me how u got ur experience certificate at last?

Vithal Wadje · Answer

excellent advice Anil sir

Abhineet Srivastava · Answer

Cool Ridhi... Where is party? :p Cheers

Riddhi Valecha · Answer

Hi... I absolutely agree to all of you... I did write in www.consumer complaints .in site about this. What I personally feel is that no company should ruin someone's career like this in hatered. One wrong intention spoils everything. Lets see, where do I land up now... Thanks a lot everybody for sharing the views and suggestions and also for advising me to move on the right track.

Jean Paul · Answer

That makes Sense! I support Chandradev's Answer!

Chandradev Prasad · Answer

Hi Riddhi, I can understand your pain. I am also facing same problem since last 4 yrs. I had even become fired 2 time after getting job. I had rejected in background verification in many companies like in cognizant one time,Wipro one time, Polaris 3 times, Hcl 2 times. Still now i used write 5 companies where i have worked. Since from last 1 and half year i was working as contract. Now i m working as independent consultant. I m working on very nice project. I m so much happy with my work. You just rejected one time. You donot loss your confidence. One day your good time will come. You are engineer. You can do anythings. Trust on your self. According to me. In interview HR round, you donot tell truth. They will not accept it. You can tell." My parent was not well so i went to my native for 2 months then after that i loss my job". So i m searching other job. 2 months gap is not big issue. I have seen so many person used to get job even after 1 yrs gap. For few years you try to be in some small or medium size company. But you try to write "company review in www.glassdoor.co.in or www.consumer complaints .in . So that other people can know about that company.

Riddhi Valecha · Answer

Hi all... Due to all your good wishes, I got 3 interviews calls and I cleared all 3 of them. I have not mentioned anything about the current company in my resume. Mostly next week I will join the job. I am planning to do a labour court case. Other clerks are refusing. They are saying- "hame is jhanjhat mein nahi padna." I am just hoping for the best results now. I wish that no one else in the future should suffer from such things. Thanks all in advance.

Chandradev Prasad · Answer

Hi As per as @Anil sir advice, you people file a case in labour court. Since you people are in group then why are you scaring ?what is the company name ? is it in which city ?

Riddhi Valecha · Answer

Hi all... Thanks a ton for all your advices. I did have 2 interviews for a new job. All went well. In both the interviews, I was asked the reasons to leave the current company. I spoke the truth to the HR Department that my current company have decided to close the Software Development Division, since they are not earning any profit from it. One of these companies called up my current company and asked that why are they closing this Software Development Division. The worst part - The HR Of my current company replied that the employees were not efficient enough. This made a bad impression of all 15candidates and now this has created more problems for us. Don't know how to move forward and why do the company people believe other company's feedback....

Riddhi Valecha · Answer

I did talk to the HR Person for the experience certificate. But still, they are refusing. I have not written the past company's name in my cv. But, then the question arises that why there is a gap of 2months in my cv. What if the HR of the new company asks for a reason?? What should I answer there? Also, I am not afraid of the feedback that they will give about me. In this case, the company is wrong, not the candidates. 15 of us have been removed. The worst part is that no one is ready to fight out things.